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		<title>By: Cash</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baruch,

&quot;Apple may be planning to add 3G wireless broadband capabilities to all or part of its laptop line - including possibly the oft-rumored tablet Mac.&quot;

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/05/3g_job_posting/

  I hope the Touchbook people get there first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baruch,</p>
<p>&#8220;Apple may be planning to add 3G wireless broadband capabilities to all or part of its laptop line &#8211; including possibly the oft-rumored tablet Mac.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/05/3g_job_posting/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/05/3g_job_posting/</a></p>
<p>  I hope the Touchbook people get there first.</p>
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		<title>By: Kashish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kashish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neat article...very well spelled out for us...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat article&#8230;very well spelled out for us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peatey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peatey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please tell me they got rid of infinite city sprawl in civ4...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please tell me they got rid of infinite city sprawl in civ4&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: samycode</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[samycode]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iForgot:

the next big thing will be a revolutionary CAR built by apple!!!
something the USA really need!!!

the 

iCar or iDrive or perhaps iDoNotWalk... ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iForgot:</p>
<p>the next big thing will be a revolutionary CAR built by apple!!!<br />
something the USA really need!!!</p>
<p>the </p>
<p>iCar or iDrive or perhaps iDoNotWalk&#8230; ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: samycode</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[samycode]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think apple has made anything wrong.
people are bored. people need entertainment. people want to have something better and nicer than others have. 

The early phone catches the worm. 

Apple does not want to compete with global companies like Nokia. Apple produces high end products with high end look and feel and high end marketing for high end people. 
How and why should Apple produce an iPhone NANO? Sorry, this does not work and would be completly nuts because there is no reason for it.
A phone without webbrowing and so on just for those people who want an apple phone, too?
Come on...with an iPod this is no problem at all. iPod is just for listening to music. But a brand new APPLE phone which is made for calling someone else??? hmmm... not a really huge inventory.


sorry for my bad english.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think apple has made anything wrong.<br />
people are bored. people need entertainment. people want to have something better and nicer than others have. </p>
<p>The early phone catches the worm. </p>
<p>Apple does not want to compete with global companies like Nokia. Apple produces high end products with high end look and feel and high end marketing for high end people.<br />
How and why should Apple produce an iPhone NANO? Sorry, this does not work and would be completly nuts because there is no reason for it.<br />
A phone without webbrowing and so on just for those people who want an apple phone, too?<br />
Come on&#8230;with an iPod this is no problem at all. iPod is just for listening to music. But a brand new APPLE phone which is made for calling someone else??? hmmm&#8230; not a really huge inventory.</p>
<p>sorry for my bad english.</p>
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		<title>By: inthewoods</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[inthewoods]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nvidia Cash?  As more doom for AAPL and MSFT?  You can&#039;t be serious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nvidia Cash?  As more doom for AAPL and MSFT?  You can&#8217;t be serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Cash</title>
		<link>http://ultimibarbarorum.com/2009/02/14/do-androids-dream-of-apple-blackberry-crumble/comment-page-1/#comment-2605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More doom for AAPL and MSFT. While the Register is telling us the interesting new Nvidia Tegra may be in the next Iphone,

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/nvidia_touts_tegra/

Cnet is telling us Nvidia is aiming for Android also:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10165037-64.html?tag=mncol;posts

  While I&#039;m sure AAPL would like to have the same lock on their hardware base they kept for so long with their computers (keeping them a boutique-computing item) it looks like Nvidia is aiming for the standard hardware base market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More doom for AAPL and MSFT. While the Register is telling us the interesting new Nvidia Tegra may be in the next Iphone,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/nvidia_touts_tegra/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/nvidia_touts_tegra/</a></p>
<p>Cnet is telling us Nvidia is aiming for Android also:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10165037-64.html?tag=mncol;posts" rel="nofollow">http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10165037-64.html?tag=mncol;posts</a></p>
<p>  While I&#8217;m sure AAPL would like to have the same lock on their hardware base they kept for so long with their computers (keeping them a boutique-computing item) it looks like Nvidia is aiming for the standard hardware base market.</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade de Chaos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Comrade de Chaos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyway Baruch, the transition from shorting the universe and keeping everything in cash to a new, potential market bullish reality is what concerns most of us the most. 
Any philosophical lessons on how to not get killed while going long/short and than all the way long would be very much appreciated. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway Baruch, the transition from shorting the universe and keeping everything in cash to a new, potential market bullish reality is what concerns most of us the most.<br />
Any philosophical lessons on how to not get killed while going long/short and than all the way long would be very much appreciated. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade de Chaos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Comrade de Chaos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple does not focus on quality. Apple does not focus on customer service. They focus on user-friendliness. And while it might be true that they don&#039;t make much on their applications &amp; media, those are complimentary goods that turn consumers toward i-phone. The tech savvy people do not buy I-phones. The lazy consumers like myself that don&#039;t give a damn about tech spec’s but care about ease of using Bloomberg LP , Pandora, etc with no brainier updates do.

Anyway, just heard the rumor that Apple is coming out with a cheap phone by the summer. And it is a smart move for them to delay products right now, and release updates when consumer spending does pick up, while destroying their competition in a price war. Also given Apple has 25 bl cash war-chest and their competitors don’t, the result might be obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple does not focus on quality. Apple does not focus on customer service. They focus on user-friendliness. And while it might be true that they don&#8217;t make much on their applications &amp; media, those are complimentary goods that turn consumers toward i-phone. The tech savvy people do not buy I-phones. The lazy consumers like myself that don&#8217;t give a damn about tech spec’s but care about ease of using Bloomberg LP , Pandora, etc with no brainier updates do.</p>
<p>Anyway, just heard the rumor that Apple is coming out with a cheap phone by the summer. And it is a smart move for them to delay products right now, and release updates when consumer spending does pick up, while destroying their competition in a price war. Also given Apple has 25 bl cash war-chest and their competitors don’t, the result might be obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael J.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there is one company who knows how to make boatloads of PROFIT in the single-digit market-share space it is Apple. 

The iPhone makes a lot more sense if you think of it as a small computer which can get data via the cell network, and happens to make calls too. If you&#039;re cellphone-centric it will never make sense. Most analysts focus on volume, Apple focuses on quality. Fewer people care about quality over price, but those that do will pay a premium.

Which is kind of like their computers. The conventional wisdom has been wrong on Apple for, what, decades now? Somehow they seem to do okay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is one company who knows how to make boatloads of PROFIT in the single-digit market-share space it is Apple. </p>
<p>The iPhone makes a lot more sense if you think of it as a small computer which can get data via the cell network, and happens to make calls too. If you&#8217;re cellphone-centric it will never make sense. Most analysts focus on volume, Apple focuses on quality. Fewer people care about quality over price, but those that do will pay a premium.</p>
<p>Which is kind of like their computers. The conventional wisdom has been wrong on Apple for, what, decades now? Somehow they seem to do okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Baruch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baruch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crikey, Josh, spot on; you enunciate my concerns precisely. Whenever I write one these things I think &quot;why the hell would anyone be interested in this stuff&quot;. No, I really do. Thanks for taking the time to write in.

Verec, why do you think I understand INTC and MFST any better? I spend less time thinking about them. Wait, maybe that&#039;s your point.

Andrew, I agree quite a lot, and yours is similar to the point made by Monsieur de Chaos. But Apple doesn&#039;t make a lot of money from the apps, I fear, just like it doesn&#039;t make much off iTunes. I think they would prefer to sell hardware, and think about GMs and how to make more people buy the phone.

Cash and Chris, I can only agree with everything you say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crikey, Josh, spot on; you enunciate my concerns precisely. Whenever I write one these things I think &#8220;why the hell would anyone be interested in this stuff&#8221;. No, I really do. Thanks for taking the time to write in.</p>
<p>Verec, why do you think I understand INTC and MFST any better? I spend less time thinking about them. Wait, maybe that&#8217;s your point.</p>
<p>Andrew, I agree quite a lot, and yours is similar to the point made by Monsieur de Chaos. But Apple doesn&#8217;t make a lot of money from the apps, I fear, just like it doesn&#8217;t make much off iTunes. I think they would prefer to sell hardware, and think about GMs and how to make more people buy the phone.</p>
<p>Cash and Chris, I can only agree with everything you say.</p>
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		<title>By: verec</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[verec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting out of your depth. Maybe that silence of yours was welcome after all!

While most of what you say is true, it is mostly IRRELEVANT.

Apple customers do not buy a product, they buy a dream. And &quot;classical&quot; economic thinking falls of the cliff, again, as usual.

Poor Barruck, please, stick to the companies that you do understand, the like of MFST, INTC and other bores]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting out of your depth. Maybe that silence of yours was welcome after all!</p>
<p>While most of what you say is true, it is mostly IRRELEVANT.</p>
<p>Apple customers do not buy a product, they buy a dream. And &#8220;classical&#8221; economic thinking falls of the cliff, again, as usual.</p>
<p>Poor Barruck, please, stick to the companies that you do understand, the like of MFST, INTC and other bores</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Leeger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Leeger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ultimi Boredom...this is the longest blog entry I&#039;ve ever read about something completely insignificant...couldn&#039;t even make it through the whole thing.  Good work!

Thanks!

Spinoza]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimi Boredom&#8230;this is the longest blog entry I&#8217;ve ever read about something completely insignificant&#8230;couldn&#8217;t even make it through the whole thing.  Good work!</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Spinoza</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to disagree.

The last thing the iPhone needs to do is follow the standard phone model of releasing model after model of slightly different phones to push up sales.

There is no brand loyalty because the experience and features are so fragmented.  Your user experience was wasted once you picked up a new model.

The reason the iPhone works is that the 3G isn&#039;t much different from the 1st Generation iPhone, and that is where it&#039;s strength is.

You are missing the most important part of the iPhone, which isn&#039;t Gross Margins or cool case colors or anything else. 

Like the iPod, it isn&#039;t about the device, it&#039;s all about the library.  iPhone (or iPod) isn&#039;t about getting someone to upgrade their old phone for a new one, but getting them to buy application after application and song after song.

If your device is well made, you don&#039;t need to produce one radical design or gimmick after another.  Your radical design and gimmick are in the applications store or the content library.

At one time there we dozens of different computer platforms, and they shook down to 2-3 major platforms and hundreds of makers.  That shake-out is now happening in the phone space as well.

The era of the handset is dead.  Now its all about the applications those handsets run.  

If you disagree, look at the average iPhone users applications sitting on their phone.  The iPhone is where programmers know they can make a million dollars in a month if their app is good enough.  No other phone product has that ability.   When all the best are producing apps for one platform, they sell your platform for you.

As long as iTunes and the Application Store remain THE place to produce mobile apps, Apple doesn&#039;t have to produce endless versions to appeal to the masses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree.</p>
<p>The last thing the iPhone needs to do is follow the standard phone model of releasing model after model of slightly different phones to push up sales.</p>
<p>There is no brand loyalty because the experience and features are so fragmented.  Your user experience was wasted once you picked up a new model.</p>
<p>The reason the iPhone works is that the 3G isn&#8217;t much different from the 1st Generation iPhone, and that is where it&#8217;s strength is.</p>
<p>You are missing the most important part of the iPhone, which isn&#8217;t Gross Margins or cool case colors or anything else. </p>
<p>Like the iPod, it isn&#8217;t about the device, it&#8217;s all about the library.  iPhone (or iPod) isn&#8217;t about getting someone to upgrade their old phone for a new one, but getting them to buy application after application and song after song.</p>
<p>If your device is well made, you don&#8217;t need to produce one radical design or gimmick after another.  Your radical design and gimmick are in the applications store or the content library.</p>
<p>At one time there we dozens of different computer platforms, and they shook down to 2-3 major platforms and hundreds of makers.  That shake-out is now happening in the phone space as well.</p>
<p>The era of the handset is dead.  Now its all about the applications those handsets run.  </p>
<p>If you disagree, look at the average iPhone users applications sitting on their phone.  The iPhone is where programmers know they can make a million dollars in a month if their app is good enough.  No other phone product has that ability.   When all the best are producing apps for one platform, they sell your platform for you.</p>
<p>As long as iTunes and the Application Store remain THE place to produce mobile apps, Apple doesn&#8217;t have to produce endless versions to appeal to the masses.</p>
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		<title>By: Cash Mundy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cash Mundy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I decided about five years ago that what happened to PCs when the IBM-PC came out would happen to cells. Anyone remember trash-80s? The CP/M operating system? Altair? Imsai?
  If ATT hadn&#039;t retarded the spread of Unix by ten years or so by dog-in-the-mangering it via their license, MSFT would either be nothing or much less than they are. I was using an X-windows precursor and Unix on a machine with 512K of ram clocking at about 1MHz back in the early 1980s. I figured that what with Stallman&#039;s GNU and Linux finally having freed Unix, the commoditized standard-architecture cells would be running some Unix variant (that&#039;s what OSX is: BSD Unix on top of the Mach Microkernel with a nice GUI on top, the latter being Apple&#039;s claim to fame, aside from basically hijacking some open source [which the GPL license GNU and Linux have should prevent]).
  I&#039;ve got a G1. It is basically an ugly prototype. The software is what counts. I put the 1.1 upgrade on it (easy: see my blog for HOWTO) and the progress is impressive, and I expect that to accelerate as interest grows.
  Symbian, one of the ugliest messes I&#039;ve run across, is dead dead dead. Palm has seen the writing and is apparently switching to some kind of Linux. MSFT being basically like a cockroach, their crap will be hard to eliminate, but I think in five or so years cells running anything other than a Unix variant (or maybe Haiku or some other upcoming free software OS) will be have already been history for a year or so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided about five years ago that what happened to PCs when the IBM-PC came out would happen to cells. Anyone remember trash-80s? The CP/M operating system? Altair? Imsai?<br />
  If ATT hadn&#8217;t retarded the spread of Unix by ten years or so by dog-in-the-mangering it via their license, MSFT would either be nothing or much less than they are. I was using an X-windows precursor and Unix on a machine with 512K of ram clocking at about 1MHz back in the early 1980s. I figured that what with Stallman&#8217;s GNU and Linux finally having freed Unix, the commoditized standard-architecture cells would be running some Unix variant (that&#8217;s what OSX is: BSD Unix on top of the Mach Microkernel with a nice GUI on top, the latter being Apple&#8217;s claim to fame, aside from basically hijacking some open source [which the GPL license GNU and Linux have should prevent]).<br />
  I&#8217;ve got a G1. It is basically an ugly prototype. The software is what counts. I put the 1.1 upgrade on it (easy: see my blog for HOWTO) and the progress is impressive, and I expect that to accelerate as interest grows.<br />
  Symbian, one of the ugliest messes I&#8217;ve run across, is dead dead dead. Palm has seen the writing and is apparently switching to some kind of Linux. MSFT being basically like a cockroach, their crap will be hard to eliminate, but I think in five or so years cells running anything other than a Unix variant (or maybe Haiku or some other upcoming free software OS) will be have already been history for a year or so.</p>
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