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		<title>By: ze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cash Mundy, apple develops, at least, webkit and CUPS (yes, the printing system), both stuff used by everyone in the OS world.

in fact, they contributed more that canonical, the guys who make ubuntu but contribute ZERO for the community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash Mundy, apple develops, at least, webkit and CUPS (yes, the printing system), both stuff used by everyone in the OS world.</p>
<p>in fact, they contributed more that canonical, the guys who make ubuntu but contribute ZERO for the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Cash</title>
		<link>http://ultimibarbarorum.com/2009/08/10/the-worm-in-the-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-4385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nokia bets on Linux in iPhone battle

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE57P1SG20090826

Been watching Maemo with interest for a while. It is Debian based, as is OpenWRT (I&#039;m connecting via a DD-WRT repeater, but only because the crappy post-Cisco Linksys router only has 2MB Flash).
http://maemo.org/intro/
Maemo could turn out to predominate over Android in the long term, especially for larger devices, given that Android at the application level is limited to the Dalvik java-variant engine, whereas Maemo appears to support both QT and GTK, and can be coded for in at least c, c++ and python, meaning it is pretty wide-open. If it makes the jump from Nokia into the mobile ecosystem at large, it could become quite interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nokia bets on Linux in iPhone battle</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE57P1SG20090826" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE57P1SG20090826</a></p>
<p>Been watching Maemo with interest for a while. It is Debian based, as is OpenWRT (I&#8217;m connecting via a DD-WRT repeater, but only because the crappy post-Cisco Linksys router only has 2MB Flash).<br />
<a href="http://maemo.org/intro/" rel="nofollow">http://maemo.org/intro/</a><br />
Maemo could turn out to predominate over Android in the long term, especially for larger devices, given that Android at the application level is limited to the Dalvik java-variant engine, whereas Maemo appears to support both QT and GTK, and can be coded for in at least c, c++ and python, meaning it is pretty wide-open. If it makes the jump from Nokia into the mobile ecosystem at large, it could become quite interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Chili Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chili Palmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tough room.  

So here we have a little company that struggled with also-ran status for years buggering on with its self reinforced belief among the near cult like charming little gatherings each year that it was doing the right thing to build simple beautiful albeit expensive machines, and that someday the world would figure out how right they were.

That actually didn&#039;t work out so well and DOJ would put a serious hurt on itself trying to prove any monopoly tendancies to any company, like , say, APPL with what ,&lt;5% PC market share.

No they come up with something that I think they would admit is designed to be a protected platform like iTunes/iPod/iPhone which by all accounts works flawlessly.  Much more than we can say about anything MSFT.

Do they want to protect this no longer so little fiefdom.  You bet your earbuds they do.  Should they?  Long as they keep making tech toys that work this well for really not much at all, I say yes.  Don&#039;t want Google to help people make VOIP calls over your phone?  Strange wny not?!  Maybe cause you could wreck the whole freaking business!  That&#039;s why.

But of course the hard part of this is sthat Mr. Jobs is a disrupter.  NOw when he gets big he finds out their are disrupters who would like to disrupt him since he now has something big enough to disrupt.

It will be interesting to watch him wiggle.  I love watching tech eat their young.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough room.  </p>
<p>So here we have a little company that struggled with also-ran status for years buggering on with its self reinforced belief among the near cult like charming little gatherings each year that it was doing the right thing to build simple beautiful albeit expensive machines, and that someday the world would figure out how right they were.</p>
<p>That actually didn&#8217;t work out so well and DOJ would put a serious hurt on itself trying to prove any monopoly tendancies to any company, like , say, APPL with what ,&lt;5% PC market share.</p>
<p>No they come up with something that I think they would admit is designed to be a protected platform like iTunes/iPod/iPhone which by all accounts works flawlessly.  Much more than we can say about anything MSFT.</p>
<p>Do they want to protect this no longer so little fiefdom.  You bet your earbuds they do.  Should they?  Long as they keep making tech toys that work this well for really not much at all, I say yes.  Don&#039;t want Google to help people make VOIP calls over your phone?  Strange wny not?!  Maybe cause you could wreck the whole freaking business!  That&#039;s why.</p>
<p>But of course the hard part of this is sthat Mr. Jobs is a disrupter.  NOw when he gets big he finds out their are disrupters who would like to disrupt him since he now has something big enough to disrupt.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to watch him wiggle.  I love watching tech eat their young.</p>
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		<title>By: Baruch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baruch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Cash. I agree. A coalition of the open-sourcers should coalesce to destroy this mad fruit.

Or at least weaken it to the point it can do us no more harm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Cash. I agree. A coalition of the open-sourcers should coalesce to destroy this mad fruit.</p>
<p>Or at least weaken it to the point it can do us no more harm.</p>
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		<title>By: Cash Mundy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cash Mundy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much as I am as afraid of GOOG as everyone should be (&quot;All your database are belong to us!&quot;), I can&#039;t actually find anything bad to say about them. Still love my G1, use gmail, Google Sites and now Google Code (creepy, but very cool), will go long GOOG for the long haul if this disaster rally ever breaks.

  Plenty of reasons to detest AAPL; been saying for a while that they are the new MSFT, and really with their software-patent play as far back as 1989 (attempting to patent ideas they lifted from Xerox PARC), they started their patent-troll career.

  Interesting aside: turns out RHAT (no surprise) but also IBM and GOOG are major supporters of Linux kernel development. No sign of AAPL, of course; do they contribute anything anywhere?

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/whowriteslinux.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much as I am as afraid of GOOG as everyone should be (&#8220;All your database are belong to us!&#8221;), I can&#8217;t actually find anything bad to say about them. Still love my G1, use gmail, Google Sites and now Google Code (creepy, but very cool), will go long GOOG for the long haul if this disaster rally ever breaks.</p>
<p>  Plenty of reasons to detest AAPL; been saying for a while that they are the new MSFT, and really with their software-patent play as far back as 1989 (attempting to patent ideas they lifted from Xerox PARC), they started their patent-troll career.</p>
<p>  Interesting aside: turns out RHAT (no surprise) but also IBM and GOOG are major supporters of Linux kernel development. No sign of AAPL, of course; do they contribute anything anywhere?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/whowriteslinux.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/whowriteslinux.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Comrade de Chaos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Comrade de Chaos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am neutral on  Macs. Used to love them back in 03 - 05  for simplicity but cooled off due to the very mentioned above reason. Last draw was them forcing me to buy new OS to run Windows (the free existing online patch was taken off.)
However one should not discount the irrationality and herd behavior of consumers. In addition apple has a goof chance of capitalizing on media and related content by enabling e-shmodes to transfer data/media/web pretty much anywhere. 
When it comes to Apple valuations, it&#039;s hard to find a large cap fund in your average 401K that ignores it at any PE range. Take into the account all of those Apple fans that believe in investing in what they &quot;know/can hold&quot; and any long term investment in both long &amp; short direction is plain boring  (will be highly correlated to S&amp;P/tech industry + slight premium .)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am neutral on  Macs. Used to love them back in 03 &#8211; 05  for simplicity but cooled off due to the very mentioned above reason. Last draw was them forcing me to buy new OS to run Windows (the free existing online patch was taken off.)<br />
However one should not discount the irrationality and herd behavior of consumers. In addition apple has a goof chance of capitalizing on media and related content by enabling e-shmodes to transfer data/media/web pretty much anywhere.<br />
When it comes to Apple valuations, it&#8217;s hard to find a large cap fund in your average 401K that ignores it at any PE range. Take into the account all of those Apple fans that believe in investing in what they &#8220;know/can hold&#8221; and any long term investment in both long &amp; short direction is plain boring  (will be highly correlated to S&amp;P/tech industry + slight premium .)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[100% agree!  I had a run-in with this fact yesterday.  I decided it was time I started developing apps for my iPhone, went and signed up for the Apple Developers Center, etc. only to be told upon signing up that you MUST HAVE a Mac (latest version O/S also) if you want to develop for the iPhone.  I don&#039;t own a Mac, nor do I ever want to.

As for developing programs for PC&#039;s, I&#039;ve done it in Linux, Windows, and.... on a Mac!  This totally blew my mind, so I rattled off an e-mail to a buddy who develops iPhone apps, and who I know HATES Macs as much as me.  He just confirmed my worst fears that he had been forced to go out and buy a Mac.

So much for me doing any iPhone app development.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% agree!  I had a run-in with this fact yesterday.  I decided it was time I started developing apps for my iPhone, went and signed up for the Apple Developers Center, etc. only to be told upon signing up that you MUST HAVE a Mac (latest version O/S also) if you want to develop for the iPhone.  I don&#8217;t own a Mac, nor do I ever want to.</p>
<p>As for developing programs for PC&#8217;s, I&#8217;ve done it in Linux, Windows, and&#8230;. on a Mac!  This totally blew my mind, so I rattled off an e-mail to a buddy who develops iPhone apps, and who I know HATES Macs as much as me.  He just confirmed my worst fears that he had been forced to go out and buy a Mac.</p>
<p>So much for me doing any iPhone app development.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; I hate the cutsie-coo operating system and the self satisfied “pop” when you close a window.&quot;

What are you talking about?

Also, the iPod isn&#039;t the only MP3 player compatible with the Mac. It&#039;s the only MP3 player supported with iTunes. There is a difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I hate the cutsie-coo operating system and the self satisfied “pop” when you close a window.&#8221;</p>
<p>What are you talking about?</p>
<p>Also, the iPod isn&#8217;t the only MP3 player compatible with the Mac. It&#8217;s the only MP3 player supported with iTunes. There is a difference.</p>
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